Curse

Darkside · Mar 11, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39

I'd never kick a paragon off my team if he pinged me a good build. Unfortunately, most of the time I get a retarded build with 8 different spear attacks. Of course that's true of all the classes when you pug.

masta_yoda · Mar 11, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

It's a Luxon/Kurzick skill, actually. Someone in my guild says that Warriors are the worst class, dervishes can outdamage them, paragons can outdefend them, and eles/dervs can outtank them. So if someone prefers someone else to me, naturally I'd hate the competitor.

So according to Stormlord Alex, I'm neither PvE'er or PvP'er.

u sound really bad

Cebe · Mar 11, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

I hate Paragons because everyone thinks they're so godly. You never see accomplishment threads for warriors or warrior gatherings, it's just stuff for paragons. Everyone loves the paragons, everyone hates the warriors. The more love for paragons, the more us warriors are cast aside. There's a natural hatred between the two.

Can Warriors achieve ranged deep wound*? No.

*Excludes PvE Skills.

t00115577 · Mar 11, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

paras are the best class in GW, as imba as ursan, anyone who disagrees is a retard

The Way Out · Mar 11, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Paragons are much more than just buffers or support. An all paragon team does higher DPS than an all Ursan group and heals and buffs at the same time... go figure. They have the fastest attack rate ig. Spear throwing FTW. Also...

Paragon skills are easily misunderstood by most players. They see them as looking "gay" and won't play them. I will take a good paragon over a good warrior anytime, mainly because they help out the party more.

Richardt · Mar 11, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35

I would say....the floofy looking armor

But yeah, the average PuG is full of FAIL. Most just can't handle variety. I remember when Sab's necros were becoming popular, I PuG'ed out of morbid curiosity (and bordom) and they asked if I had a hero healer, and I pulled out that necro....man I wished I took a screen shot lol.

The Way Out · Mar 11, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Richardt

I would say....the floofy looking armor

But yeah, the average PuG is full of FAIL. Most just can't handle variety. I remember when Sab's necros were becoming popular, I PuG'ed out of morbid curiosity (and bordom) and they asked if I had a hero healer, and I pulled out that necro....man I wished I took a screen shot lol.

That still happens! I have a couple E/Mo Healer builds I use for melee damage and I had one leader of a PuG kick me and called me a noob. lol

patrona · Mar 11, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

i think the main reason is the bad publicity...

every1 is crying about all the nerfs a para gets.
And many PuG are to retard to understand that paras (still) aren't a 'piece of crap' because of those nerfs

Stormlord Alex · Mar 11, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by patrona

every1 is crying about all the nerfs a para gets.

It's testament to how badly ANet screwed up with the Paragon that, one and a half years on, and after nothing but nerf upon nerf, the Paragon is still incredibly strong and is still getting nerfed.

Bassu · Mar 11, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Today I did Catacombs HM with a PuG as a Para... We had 1 human monk with his healer hero... Wow, he was so proud of himself to keep the whole team alive, boasting all the time. Sometimes it even looked like this group had a mysterious +100 armor all the time.... Strange, isn't it?

Kept this for me, didn't want to spoil his fun. But I bet those guys would've never guessed it was me who kept them in godmode.

matsif · Mar 11, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

I don't even have factions yet, so I cant get SY, but seriously, I love my paragon. I started a derv and a paragon, and havent played my derv in a couple days.

anthem of flame+barbed spear+burning spear for a follow up = 6 seconds of -8 dps, and -3 stays on until you can repeat. I wouldnt call that bad dmg, and then you add in the other chants and such like TNTF, basically this is my favorite class since I started playing.

Richardt · Mar 11, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by Bassu

Sometimes it even looked like this group had a mysterious +100 armor all the time.... Strange, isn't it?

/Sarcasm

That is amazing! How'd you do it you sorcerer!?

/EndSarcasm

When I first saw SY, I was like "No armor for me! Screw that!"

Now I'm older and wiser-it's a fantastic skill.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 12, 2008, 08:00 AM // 08:00

I do hope Paragons stay for Gw2. They are the most insanely powerful and fun class in Guild Wars.

Richardt · Mar 12, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Me too Zahr. I would love to play a Charr paragon

Terraban · Mar 12, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

I think Paragons will get the axe....

Not because they should, but because:

90% of PvE players are retarded and think they "suck",

and

90% of PvP players hate them because they are "overpowered"

jaeharys targaryen · Mar 14, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

It's a Luxon/Kurzick skill, actually. Someone in my guild says that Warriors are the worst class, dervishes can outdamage them, paragons can outdefend them, and eles/dervs can outtank them.

someone in your guild is retarded

Yichi · Mar 14, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by Terraban

I think Paragons will get the axe....

Not because they should, but because:

90% of PvE players are retarded and think they "suck",

and

90% of PvP players hate them because they are "overpowered"

Because more than 90% of pve players are either bad, retarded, or a mixture of both... and 90% of PvP players hate how broken they actually are when you break down what it is they actually do.

The Way Out · Mar 14, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Yichi

Because more than 90% of pve players are either bad, retarded, or a mixture of both... and 90% of PvP players hate how broken they actually are when you break down what it is they actually do.

I think I am the only good player in my own mind... hence, why I suck...

Lishy · Mar 14, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Paragons need to stay for GW2.
And I don't think people should exclude them because they are "overpowered"
GW2 is an entirely new game, and the idea of a class using solely shouts and spears is one of the best ideas yet.GW2 will give ANET a chance to fix the paragon for example.
They will have cooler armor which I predict will look more like the norn armor, and they will probably have a better balance in their skills(Not 20% overpowered skills and 70% useless skills)

Although I think the main reason people don't use paragon much in gw1 is because the spear mastery skills are only so limited, and a lot of the skills are useless.It is the few amount of things which makes paragon attractive though, but when you think about it, good builds for para aren't versatile.Its Imba or ursan.

Most shouts have stupid requirements or after effects, such as "end when attack" or "under 75% hp" and the main effect isn't even good!

Frantic616 · Mar 15, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57

If they're on supporting duty, you love 'em. If they're on dmg dealing duty, you get jealous of 'em and hate them. Paragons are not required in a group such as a monk, but they certainly make ALOT of things a piece of cake. Paragons are just godly, both in PvE and PvP.